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HILARION READING ON LIVE FOOD DIETS (9/26/01)

This Reading can be freely distributed for educational purposes. The information is presented for its educational value only. No medical or therapeutic claims are made or implied.
 

Hilarion is a being, energy, or vibration channeled by Jon Fox. "The energy expressing itself through me calls itself "Hilarion," and is available to assist the evolution of humans on the Earth now. This energy is especially concerned with humanity's capacity for Universal Love, and speaks often of heart-opening and what each person must do to take our place as the beacons of love and light we truly are. As well, Hilarion provides enlightening and revolutionary technical information for astrologers, scientists, physicists, artists and healers. This guidance has helped many people in understanding personal issues, past lives, life purpose, vibrational healing, and the symbolism of the body" For more information see the Hilarion website at Hilarion.com
 

Hilarion: Greetings, Yes, is this Heidi?

Heidi: Yes

Hilarion: Greetings. This is that energy, being, or vibration called Hilarion. 

(brief energy meditation)

Hilarion: Then let us begin. You have questions for today?
 

Heidi: My first question is: Did the cooking of fats correlate to the beginnings of Dominator Societies with more ideas of aggression, anger, and violence? Did they do this with the idea of cleansing away the savage animal beast aspect of man, that eats raw, correlating with ethnic cleansings, witch burnings, other uses of fire to cleanse the wildness, the animal, the female out of us?
 

Hilarion: No. Most understanding of history is skewed by the inappropriate awareness that comes from the development of various forms of anthropology derived from fossilized remains of the Worker Race. Human kind was primarily divided along two lines: These aspects contributing to the development of humanity's various components. These have to some extent combined. Many of the aspects of injection of extraterrestrial DNA, various DNA manipulations by extraterrestrials, various components of DNA shift and gene splicing due to animal and related aspects had requirements within them to increase humanity's sensitivity to cooked fats in order to increase humanity's natural proclivities towards fear and ego difficulties. These issues would make each individual more susceptible to easy manipulation. This procedure began in ancient times long before man as you understand him is, however, the primary aspects of this became fully functional in the latter Atlantean period then moving into civilizations since this time, corresponding to approx. 15000 BC. The tuning points before this were very important for humanity's spiritual evolution, various aspects of manifesting at the physical and other important issues. However, most civilizations before this recognized the inherent benefits of raw fats, and the inherent natural benefits of bacteria. These and related matters were of no concern in the development of fear, and indeed in themselves prevented the larger fear thought-form and potential for manipulation for humanity. The separations of the two aspects of humanity, in some ways related to light and dark, other components of higher intelligence and lower, what could be seen as spirituality and various aspects of enslavement at the far extremes, were brought together to some extent towards Atlantean time period of genetic manipulation, and various other aspects, until man as then understood at 15000 BC approximately must be recognized as a distinct and different being from either the higher or lower races of humanity which existed in early Atlantis and all through the Lemurian epic. The longest in all of humanity's ancient history. Understanding this important separation gives deeper insight because the Lemurians existed, on various components that are quite alien and difficult for humans to digest at the current time. Light in its pure forms, the energy of water directly, the ability to draw energy form earth herself through the feet, even through the hands, and the ability to absorb and utilize various forms of fire including those of the various night elements as well as that of the sun itself. The wind element was a part of this but not well understood and utilized until early Atlantis, and the deeper breathing capacity of Atlanteans was utilized for the manifestation of chi energy. Food was primarily in the form of fruits, and the pancreas had a very different function in this time period. The Worker Race, however, as spliced into the human timeline, occurred towards the end of the Lemurian phase. These beings initially were quite primitive and quite similar to many of the aspects you would currently recognize from fossilized remains as Neanderthal man and related various predecessors towards this ancient people. These beings were typically buried, whereas Atlanteans and Lemurians were cremated, and this is why little of the remains of the higher race is known. Yet, it is observed that although there are many similarities between Neanderthals and modern man, there are many differences as well, and this is one of the important explanations to show this. This overview gives you an idea of where this is going. Now, the understanding of the blending of these races and the importance of raw fats is then understood once the full shift through the Atlantean phase into current physical incarnation is understood. It had to do with becoming more physical, with acknowledging and working with the animal essence. This would be hidden from most of humanity by important Keys, and you are correct in a certain sense in that the ingestion of fat would moderate the nervous system, bringing it into a more aggressive, more fearful, more ego-oriented capacity when the fats were poorly absorbed, as a natural allergic response in the human nervous system. But this must not be understood from the context of anthropology but rather gene splicing and the deliberate attempt to manipulate human consciousness. The reason for this is obvious. The spiritual development, intellectual development, and potential for true awareness was perceived in the Atlantean; this was present to some extent on the Lemurian but not fully physicalized. The physicalization was on route during the Atlantean phase and it was necessary to make these changes if enslavement of humanity was to be a true potential for the future. At the same time the various races that engaged in the enterprise have some contributions to make because the blending of the shadow and the light, the ability for humans to overcome fear, to perceive true deep truth, and to learn the lessons of ego would be a major contribution to all beings (of the Universe) should humanity successfully survive this period. Sorry for the long answer but it needed to be cleared up as to basis of question. Does this clarify?
 

Heidi: Yeah, um was it, did they eat raw fats and then start cooking fats, or, I mean at a certain point in history?
 

Hilarion: Very brief understanding of this: The worker race understood totally the importance of this. Such deep allergy to cooked fats was observed - a deep intuitive awareness, not very much intelligence, like an animal. This was far easier to work with but as the combination of these came through, the overriding spiritual aspects what you could say even the predispositions to a rejection of the animal self overrode these instincts. And then into the later Atlantean period and into modern day humans this then existed as even some of the energies in the early phases of this genetic manipulations as is obvious in some examples such as Cro Magnon man. This blending and working with this business of intuition and more clear intellectual understanding is represented then in the reactions to both cooked and raw fats. Does that clarify?
 

Heidi: Yeah, OK. All right my next question is ­ There is also a correlation between waging a war to get rid of terrorists and using chemotherapy to get rid of cancer. What will it take for the collective consciousness to understand that to try to kill the disease ultimately kills the body and when will people stop traumatizing the body or the earth or the people more to try to make it better?
 

Hilarion: "When" typically has an answer as a prediction meaning a date, and we have attempted to answer this before, as in public sessions when Mr Aajonus Vonderplanitz has asked us a similar question. But we perceive that the intent of your question goes more to the understanding of the background, what people need to learn, how they might reach this place, rather than a firm and fixed date. As we would project and work with our own computer simulations, it is a difficult question to answer, because there are so many shifting probabilities. There does appear to be a very important factor of profit motive, as this business of fear and ego is well understood by those in positions of power and those who wish to bring money to themselves, example: Big Pharma, the necessity to produce fear and let people see that the only way, for instance, to solve cancer is by Big Pharma's use of medical intervention techniques, chemotherapy, etc. This becomes a self-perpetuating situation with the deliberate intent of making money form it. As long as this profit motive is firmly in place all over your planet, then it is only a matter of internal justification for those in positions of power to say to themselves that well everybody else is doing it so we might as well too. This underlying thought-form is a very difficult thing to eradicate because it involves both fear and ego: The loss of your identity relating to the ego issue, and the loss of survival, meaning profit and money, relating to the fear issue, and so on. Because this extends throughout many of the beings in Big Pharma not just those at the top but many of those who work in these areas, the condition becomes more one of spiritual awareness, deeper understanding the issues of fear and ego and other matters, that first must be shared on your planet and thus the roundabout way of saying that there is a certain degree of self-fulfilling prophesy in all of this and more to the point, your contribution, Joe's contribution, the contribution of others who are producing literature, new possibilities for people, educating, bringing consciousness to a higher level, that is what makes all the difference. For people to recognize that the level of fear in their body is an important controlling interest and to find the ability to shift this on some level to simply be important must first be established, people must first be asking the question. Therefore, it does appear that as more and more literature is available and as more and more possibilities are shared, a certain threshold point exists whereby many people suddenly realize that the fear aspect has indeed been a driving force for them for a long time. Once they recognize that it is fairly easy to utilize various tools in order to shift it. In the meantime, the media, particularly television, will be very focused on keeping people asleep about such matters and using fear in various ways to exacerbate the problem. It may not be until 2011 or so on your planet that there is sufficient energy to reach such a threshold. It could of course be done rapidly with sufficient infusion of talent, energy, and money into the production of something that would be widely received ­ a book, a movie a television show, because the media, at the same time as producing the difficulties, produces opportunities. But so far no one has taken on such a vast project [Heidi's note: I got the biggest energy showers I have ever gotten in my life from the helpers when Hilarion said this!] You may perhaps be involved in this at some point in the future. When the opportunities show up, your willingness to be a part of this would certainly contribute to the solution here. There is of course an alternate path. One in which those individuals who make themselves so visible as to produce the potential for a true alternate reality for humanity become a threat to those who wish to create difficulties, and the result would be widespread destruction of beings such as yourselves and many of the cultural creatives on your planet. It would be a relatively easy matter to accomplish should those involved choose it, except for one factor: the non-physicals. They will work with you in every way possible to assist, if in nothing else simply to provide sufficient guidance and assistance through dreams to get you out of places of danger or difficulty before such would be harmful to you. This would result in a period of isolation which would not be so helpful to humanity of course, you would see the potential here being that in which various beings continue along this path and the revelation or truth about the difficulty with fats and related matters simply stays as it is. Chemotherapy, Big Pharma, and various other important aspects continuing. This probability unfortunately due to relatively recent developments on your planet is increasing, and it is that certainly for much concern and that which is being felt by many of you who have the more developed psychic abilities. It is as if the future selves are speaking to you ­ the ones down each path. The one down the path of greater enlightenment, the one down the path of greater endarkenment, specifically fear and ego exacerbated for humanity thus for you personally as well. These are difficult issues but certainly come to an important crossing point now. As these crossing points are reached the opportunity to share information increases. We see that deeper decisions than have ever been made before are likely around 2005. These allowing individuals more understanding of their future selves. And the ability to listen to who you are at 2011 and 2012 and 2013 will help a great deal with pushing humanity in the direction that you would think is important. Of course it must not be judged from outside whether opportunities for enlightenment or enslavement and endarkenment are appropriate for humanity as a whole. It must be perceived from the place of love. From the place in which you sense what is appropriate and best. What gradually emerges of course is a third possibility, one that has been utilized before and that which was hoped by potentially helpful non-physicals and other beings would not be employed. The separation. The aspect that has been described in Revelations, the aspect of lifting or ascension or release of a large sector of humanity to another dimensional reality, leaving the others behind. The love you have for your brothers and sisters is born of much more than DNA, and it is this willingness to stick it out here as long as possible to help them, to be helped by them, to learn from them, to love them and be loved by them. That will likely continue as an important force and push these probabilities into the dates we have mentioned. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yes. OK my next question is, um, Does the fact that fats have to be processed through plants and animals before we use it point to a need for us to heal via group and that in fact creating communities is a necessary prerequisite for individual healing to take place?
 

Hilarion: That is correct, but it goes even deeper. In the processing of plants, interaction with bacteria is absolutely necessary. These are indeed the first step as the bacteria on your planet relate very specifically to the interchange of DNA information between the plant and the soil by the utilization of folvic acids, humic acids, and many other important materials, though folvic acid is certainly the leader in this regard. This is the first step in the development of these life-giving materials, from the inorganic materials based on carbon, oxygen, sunlight, hydrogen, etc. As these elements combine in the appropriate way, their modification by bacteria has more within it than simply the existence or survival of the bacteria. As a large group, a shared consciousness, they are actually bringing the sense of life into the food itself. This allows the interchange of information through the DNA structures, bringing a deeper degree of consciousness still nowhere near the level of permanence, but important on the level of primitive consciousness for the bacteria. This allows then the beginning life forms, energy as life itself into the plants. You are correct in observing this but it does not apply only to fats. All the materials that are processed in this way in their own variations work their way into the human body. Human beings have capacity to modify DNA in order to exchange and work with various fats calcium lead and other toxic materials etc. in order to provide deeper health. This capacity can be arranged as a spectrum with the most difficult being that which is the complete shift to the absorption of processed cooked foods. But minor modifications closer on the spectrum which is generally available now to the bulk of humanity would relate to the conversion of vegetable based fats into those that are fully assimilable as building materials in the body. This would be the obvious first step along this line and with the obvious hint we have given, with the understanding of the DNA shifts allowed by folvic acid. When folvic acid with sufficient bacteria, is present within the human body, along with various important plant materials, the first steps can be taken within consciousness to the absorption and utilization of vegetable fats. The animal fat link is correct, as you have perceived it in terms of the importance of building when the body is in toxic condition. If the body can be sufficiently detoxified, or if, from birth, it can be raised in a low toxic condition, meaning specifically no cooked materials, and maximization of most absorbable, helpful fats, as human milk, to age three years old or so, that is appropriate time of true separation, end of gestation period outside the womb etc. From all we can see it is likely then the individual can continue with little need, although with perhaps occasional need, under certain circumstance of toxicity for animal fats from animals that have been killed. Milk, and various other fatty materials that can be taken from animals in ways that do not harm them, may be possible during this period and desirable when the changes get under way with very little in the way of DNA shifts necessary. Does this clarify?
 

Heidi: Yeah.
 

Hilarion: So to say this in another way, much of the requirement for animal fats in human beings now is as a result of toxic conditions, unnatural conditions, those that have been extended through several generations and related issues, and the healing process would require it. The age of the individual, the length o time of the toxic conditions and other matters lay as important factors in this regard. For some individuals, it would require lifelong ingestion of meat in order to provide this, but for many individuals as a certain level of healing is resulting, their ability to utilize vegetable fats for sufficient fats would come in line and the reduction of desire and necessity for meat. This would be known when there is a clear, direct, and intuitive awareness, as if the waking op of the DNA aspect of the worker race inside a human and the result of this would be a deeper knowledge of bodily process. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yeah. OK, I'll go to the next one. [Note: this didn't actually address how creating community relates to psychological healing but I decided to go on to the next one and address this question at a later time]
What is the original thought or thosene (thought/sentiment/energy) that creates oils in plants and fats in animals ­ does it correspond to a particular emotion?
 

Hilarion: Yes. It is as if there is the necessity for lubricity, the ability to allow integration, different aspects to co-mingle. This ability to lubricate, to co-mingle, to allow these energies in their own ways together is the first and primary aspect that is observed with all of these materials. Lipids, in their own ways, can act as single molecular sheets, various ways in which they act as interpenetration. They are required in the development of this at the higher level in the linking of various aspects throughout the body in the receptive nervous system. It is also necessary for the manipulation and interaction with the physical world, as with the controlling system. This has many analogies in the animal kingdom, but in the plant kingdom the utilization of these materials contains some important information, the capacity to communicate this information then is the other component here. And so you see the issue of integration and communication. At the emotional level, what this relates to is love. The capacity to interact and truly connect, by touching, by interaction at a more basic physical level, between beings. To some extent the love aspect enters into every component in life, but this is especially true in relating to the essential qualities that bring fat into plant and animal. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yes. Um, I had a dream in which I saw a group of adolescents that went on a raw diet and I noticed they were more intelligent than others as if they had a light shining in the middle of their head, and I want to know ­ Does the raw diet do something to the center of the head, maybe the pineal gland, that would create this bright energy and a higher capacity for intelligence not in the people who were eating the cooked food?
 

Hilarion: Your question can be answered briefly with "Yes". Do you need more depth on this?
 

Heidi: A little bit.
 

Hilarion: The pineal gland is extremely complex. It's ability to produce various substances that at the same time are protected from the rest of the physical body by powerful eradicators of various substances that can come from the blood into the pineal makes it a very interesting organ to study, but as very difficult. It means that as it produces various components, they are very difficult to measure because they do not make their way into the blood, nor from the blood into the pineal. The pineal, however, form where it rests, between the brain hemispheres, is one of the very few components of the brain, the coliculi are another of these, that allow inter-reaction between the brain hemispheres. Intelligence is a very difficult thing to define. Goldman and others have defined various intelligences, including emotional intelligence, spatial intelligence and so on. The various intelligences clearly are moderated by brain interaction, and the pineal is able to establish this. But there is another important factor. When individuals have sufficient awareness and capability to work with higher spiritual information, the pineal gland's natural ability to produce endogenous various triptamenes, particularly, dimethyl triptemene, a very simple molecule, allows a powerful interconnectivity and interpenetration, not just between left and right brain, but between parabrain, higher mentalsoma capacities, and even higher functions as translated by the carriers, by the vibrations imbued into the DMT itself, that is the dimethyl triptemenes into the various components of the brain. These substances are natural to the body, but difficult to produce when the body is in a stressed condition. The raw diet's ability to release various aspects of fear and ego [Note: here is another question; in what ways does the diet release various aspects of fear and ego?] and other matters generally allow this as higher potential, but it is not required. Meditation, repeated work with projection of the consciousness, the ability to develop this capacity actually is not increasing the pineal's capacity. It is rather decreasing the brain's resistance to DMT naturally produced in the pineal. The result of this reduction of resistance is an important aspect of DMT that has been overlooked by the researchers. Its capacity when interacting with the nerves, which of course are widespread throughout the brain, produces superconductivity. The reduction in resistance is not only that with is a psychological resistance, is a resistance at the physical level. We have spoken of these extensively in the past with references to Ohms Law, potential equals resistance multiplied by flow, an indeed with this reduction of resistance more potential is allowed. That is what you see in your dream: The potential of the great light of consciousness, God consciousness, center of universe consciousness, simply the higher self consciousness, it is more present and available to all aspects of the being. Yet, the pineal will reduce this so that the individual is not overstressed. Individuals in which such capacities for appropriate moderation has been in some way damaged or ruined for the individual, will experienced extreme psychic emergencies. These have been variously called psychosis, autism, schizophrenia, paranoia, and other important states. These conditions become habit and the individual addicted to them for many karmic reasons, but underlying all of this is a malfunction between the pineal and the rest of the brain. As this is eventually understood, by scientists, there may be some attempt at drug intervention. This brings up the other important issue which is the tremendous adaptability of this system. And therefore the best way to understand and work with it is as you guessed, by the utilization of fats and oils and an appropriate diet, and this combined with spiritual exercises to reduce these aspects of resistance and eventually allow the natural higher spiritual evolution in humanity. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yes. OK, Does the psychological block to raw meat ­ I've heard that it "looks yucky, was an alive animal, has bad things in it like hormones and antibiotics", and the person thinks they will die from it. The idea of raw meat can overshadow the truth of raw foods in general and turn people away ­ what is the primary reason?
 

Hilarion: All of these are relating in various aspects to fear. Fear will always be perceived as that which relates ultimately in the personal fear inventory of the individual. These aspects can relate to various traumas the individual has experienced. But these are still secondary aspects. At the primary aspect the fear that was generated in the trauma is usually perceived as fear of death. The ability to perceive the actual looking of the body, the physical appearance, the capacity to see that you are very similar to the raw meat you are eating. This engenders the fear of death. It can come through many pathways of course and can be called many things, but many individuals will experience this primordial fear, for instance when looking at anatomy drawing of human body, perceiving the musculature, these are very similar to the sinews, tendons, muscles, and important attributes that are seen as soon as you eat a piece of raw meat. It is as if you are eating yourself (Heidi's notes: I suppose those of us who have never experienced difficulty with this have a more intimate relation to the self, and it is therefore not disturbing? Or perhaps it has to do with understanding death in a deep way, or maybe being OK with the way nature is, how it works.) There isn't anything wrong with that once you understand it, but this inherent fear is within many individuals because they do not accept to a large extent their own physical side, the aspect of their own humanity. If one has engaged in warfare in the past, and perceived this in various traumatic contexts and situations, the problem is exacerbated. If, in a lifetime in the Middle Ages, and this being a fairly long period for which therefore high likelihood that nearly every human being you encounter has had more than one lifetime in this dark and difficult time, there was a tremendous fear that went through most of Western Civilization around such matters. This fear related to the ability of the body to harbor the evil material blood. This and other matters have of course been part of the larger plan to keep people enslaved and to allow them some resistance to the truth. There is no difference between this and many of the other larger plans that have been allowed for humanity, but each individual must overcome their fear ultimately of death, of their own body, of seeing what they really look like. For this reason, the capacity to see your truth, to see what you look like under your skin, to stop seeing people for only the skin covering, but to go deeper than this when observing the physicality. This is an important attribute that t you have understood in studying muscles, and how they contribute to various aspects of the appearance of the person, for artistic purposes. So it is also for various individuals involved in the medical arts, or potentially massage and other areas. Passing through those fear boundaries is a generally helpful phenomena for anyone, whether they wish to engage in raw diets or not. You see however that these aspects of fear are the primary psychological blocks, and any way the individual eventually recognizes that they need to shift that, that it is ruling the way they perceive the world, it is creating the filters, the dark glasses, filtering how they see everything, will eventually confront these aspects of fear in themselves. This would be quite psychologically helpful to anyone regardless of diet. Does this clarify?
 

Heidi: Yes. The other major block is bacteriaphobia ­ Some people will just NOT believe you when you say it's OK to eat bacteria, and ­ why are they this way and what would help them to understand better?
 

Hilarion: It is a difficult matter, because you will observe that in most individuals, logic means absolutely nothing, (HH Note: this would point again to movies, visual scenes, stories to engender understanding) that the simple observation that their bodies are covered with bacteria, utilizing bacteria constantly, and that even their thought that the washing of the hands has rid them of bacterial has been proven over and over by those involved in surgical procedures to be entirely incorrect. The washing of the hands, no matter how many times you do it, no matter how thorough, unless you literally etch the skin off the hand will always result in much bacteria remaining. The amounts may be reduced, but there are still going to be millions of bacteria in various forms. So the idea of logic here tells you that any degree of research, sharing information etc. will not do it. Only by the usual methods will they be able to understand. We have discussed this in the past. There are only two ways to change anybody. You can show them how it works for you, and you can show them how it's different from what they are doing now. They must make the choice for themselves. This is an emotional appeal of course, not a logical or scientific one. The logical and scientific appeal has some value for some individuals. But those with true bacteriaphobia, as you have noticed, it is a phobia. Compare this to other phobias. You are not into get an individual to release their fear of snakes, spiders, high places, and confined places, etc. etc. simply by logic, by telling them about it. And so you do have some technological means at your disposal to help people in this regard. This is with the existence with virtual reality. Virtual reality has not yet been applied to bacteriaphobia, because nobody has observed that there is a need for it. But those who are involved in this enterprise of the raw diet and its value, there are some of them who do have computer skills and could indeed apply this. So that a person could see themselves very small, interacting with bacteria as a beautiful and loving environment, or, involving themselves with bacteria in various ways in the world (HH: What a good idea!) Ultimately, though, each individual must make a choice towards the experience, towards the risk, and this is what also happens with any phobia. When you cure the phobia, the individual is consciously aware of what is happening, and walks into the fear producing situation, because they are no longer interested in being ruled by that fear. Whatever it is. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yeah. What is the primary way raw fats help on an emotional level?
 

Hilarion: The primary way it helps is observed by the way in which humanity is in a toxic condition. If humans were in the normal condition, our answer would be completely different. But when you look at the average human being, the nervous system is in a state of extreme disrepair, dysfunctionality, and in its very highest functioning, when the individual is in their supposedly best feeling, healthiest level, what you might correspond with the awareness of aspects of, shall we say, entertainment. The individuals then have the capacity to work with the fats that are present, but the higher capacity of the nervous system is not available. As the fats are allowed, this repairs. The various systems come on line and you can then see that a gradual switch from Entertainment to Evolution takes place. It is back to the old issue that the nonphysicals wish you to understand that indeed fats eventually become the key to the wholesale understanding of the switch into clarification. Do you understand?
 

Heidi: Uh, Sort of
 

Hilarion: We simply wanted to extend this into more spiritual realms because that is as so many have observed eventual Evolution of humanity. In the basic area fats are helpful at rebuilding, re-strengthening and ultimately repairing the human nervous system. Does this answer your question?
(HH: The connection of raw fats to Clarification Task is interesting ­ it would indicate that the raw diet IS indeed connected to consciousness, the development of the consciousness ­ in what ways specifically? Firstly, as Hilarion pointed out, seeing the truth, under the skin, is a part of both the diet and the clarification task. The clarification task has to do with the truth of the multidimensional reality, looking beyond the veil, beyond the outer skin of everything physical, so there is this connection. There is also the idea of the evolution of the capacity of the nervous system itself to deal with information better. This strongly suggests that the IAC's (organization that developed term Clarification Task) push for consciousnesses to move away from addiction/ entertainment and towards evolution would be greatly helped if those consciousnesses were at the same time eating raw fats. It probably goes even farther than this. Note Hilarion's connection between fats and the emotion love, which I had guessed would be his answer to that question. The evolution of a consciousness requires love, does it not? And the body requires raw fats.)
 

Heidi: Yeah, OK. Why does a lack of bacteria in the body cause depression and then when you eat high meats with tons of bacteria, you can immediately become very happy? Does it affect your brain chemistry? (I could have found this out from some other source than Hilarion I realize)
 

Hilarion: Yes, many aspects of body chemistry are affected. The blood allows small amounts of chemicals to be secreted. The small intestines primary roll is in the interaction with the bacteria, the capacity to hold many strains, to work with them on many levels. Some of these strains will be wiped out by various toxic materials secreted elsewhere in the body or ingested after the high meat is eaten. Thus the depression-lifting period may not last. But on a temporary basis when even small amounts of those bacteria are present, even in the digestive system earlier than the small intestine, the ability to secrete various tiny amounts of these important chemicals, make their way to receptor sites in the brain. These receptor sites have been well documented with regards to widely available chemicals, drug substances etc. with primary examples as such as marijuana, alcohol, various other drugs having various aspects of brain influence. There are many other receptor sites that have not been identified because the stimulants or the Key to fit into the receptor site as the lock have not been observed in bacteria but bacteria and their capacity to produce these various changes once they are present in the human body is what accounts for this effect. It is sometimes a complex chain of events that leads to the release of small amounts of DMT into the brain. This can produce various insights and spiritual effects, the result being in some cases a change in lifestyle for the individual, thus those situations that might be producing the depression can be changed, the individual encouraged then naturally to get out of a relationship that is harmful or to change job situation or a family situation etc etc. Ultimately, these have this important capacity, to produce change, to give the higher perspective, is a survival mechanism, and this is the reason for their development in the human condition. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yes. ( In fact, I don't know what he meant exactly by this being a part of the human condition, acting as a survival mechanism ­ is it that humans are naturally supposed to eat the high meats, and this will inspire them to see the panoramic picture, to get up the energy to make evolutionary changes, and this is way it is a survival mechanism? Like a jump-start mechanism of some kind.)
Of people experiencing depression, generally what percentage of their symptoms arise from their thoughts and what percentage arises from their physical condition?
 

Hilarion: Well, that's a hard one because there's an interplay here. The example previously given was given for that reason. So you see how one influences the other. One can change the physical condition but resist the potential for changing of those outside conditions that produce the psychological stresses ­ so, one can only average this out and say that it's 50/50. In most cases, however, it will be seen that is necessary to change both in order for the change to be permanent. Under these conditions, it is generally easier in your society to change those aspects that are more primarily due to thoughts, emotions, etc. than to change the physical. Not because the actual ingestion of high meat or the utilization of proper diet isn't easy but because most people, and again by comparison looking at the whole of humanity, most people, are ignorant, they simply do not know that this possibility exists, nor is there an easy pathway for them to learn of it. If they were able to do so, it would actually be easier to change at the physical level the various dietary factors and thus producing reduction in depression and encouragement in towards changing their situation without the intervention of psychological means. Group therapy, various inquiry processes, etc, etc. But, because the opposite is true, the actual observation here is even worse than you think. That is that the development of various MAO inhibitors, various substances brought into the body both as food through such simple materials as chocolate, coffee, various toxic processed materials etc, and drug substances, Prozac and its variants being high amongst these, although Ritalin in children being an important factor now as well. That these intervening substances temporarily break the link, producing the desired effect and increasing the physical difficulty and the likelihood that the individual will remain ignorant of the correct procedure for the dietary means of permanent change. This is therefore aligned with a more correct answer that neither the thoughts or the physical attributes of diet are going to be important for the majority of people, but rather the necessity to move away form chemical dependency in order to solve and change both aspects. Unless this is understood and perceived there will be many difficulties. And of course, here you see there the interaction with Big Pharma and the way in which various doctors, psychiatrists etc. in over-prescribing are exacerbating this difficulty. Does this answer your question? (This leads to more questions under the subject of addictions ­ how much is the body itself addicted to alcohol, to pot, to other substances, and how much is it the person's thinking?)


Heidi: Yes. You mentioned a correlation between intruders and parasites but I haven't understood that yet because it seems to me intruders, they attach onto you and they take the negative energy but they actually want you to be creating more negative energy and so for me I want to get rid of them, but the parasite I welcome because it eats the bad tissue and actually removes it. So it seems to me to be two different things.
 

Hilarion: Not at all. If you truly get it about the resonant connection between you and the intruder, don't you have the opportunity to release the negative aspect, to change it permanently within yourself? Thus the negative aspect of yourself, creating that resonance, as being healed as being eaten up, by the intruder, the analogy is exact, the trouble is that under the influence of either, one can perceive that they are the problem, and you will therefore have some shielding effect to this, the body shielding at the intuitive level with regards to parasites, and the consciousness shielding with regards to intrusion. The intruders don't want you to understand this. Because, look what it ultimately comes down to. The sense of gratefulness in your mind means nothing to your body in terms of acceptance and utilization of parasites. Therefore, it is the body's gratefulness to this, its willingness to acknowledge this that eventually leads to appropriate taste. In a child you will see this all the time, when they are stuffing their faces with dirt in order to get more parasites, get more bacteria, get more opportunities for infection. And the mother will train them to say don't ever do that, wash you hands, etc. etc. It is no coincidence that the child is putting dirt in the mouth shortly after being fed processed food that has killed the bacteria in the small intestine, because it is necessary to repopulate and work with it. So then the switching on of the body's intuitive awareness and necessity to interact with parasites, bacteria and various substances in the world, has not occurred with you to that level. You do not seek these out in the sense that the baby would, at a more mature level. That is, you're walking along outside, you see some dirt on the ground, you give it a little taste and you say, "Ah! This is much better dirt than in my neighborhood!" And so you eat a little more of it, and so on in various situations where you are deliberately seeking out wider varieties of bacteria, various substances such as parasites and so on, to be into the body as a natural intuition. So also then does this occur with intrusion. That you do not seek out the development of the resonance of intrusion, but some individuals you are aware of do. You are able to recognize the foundation principle by which Dr. Vieira allows de-intrusion in highly integrated intrusive cases, where he would intervene while in the projected state to provide love, gratefulness, a sense of a warmth and acceptance to the intruder to the point that it would reveal its vulnerabilities, and then some solution could be created in which the intruder could take care of its needs without interacting with that person. As a result, of this the sense of gratefulness eventually emerges, just as you have noted it in your mind, in relation to your intuitive awareness of parasites. This is a crossover, and there is a reverse crossover. The body has a particular intuitive resonance or gratefulness towards intruders. This is the part that makes it so difficult for most individuals, particularly where an intruder has been longstanding, to release. The body's awareness of this, as a reduction of consciousness, as a sense of comfort, as some aspect of the physical, of that which one is used to, is an obvious emotional translation of this deeper issue. It is in the crossover here that the body and mind are attempting to compensate, to give new insight, new understanding, new awareness, by which the gratefulness gives rise in consciousness, and in physical body intuition, to change. If this can be accepted, and can be worked with, then the potential here for real shift is available. And of course various spiritual practices and proper dietary process will naturally encourage this. Now, in some ways this doesn't clarify, because your question with regards to the parallels between intrusion and parasites requires on your part a leap of faith. Instead of arguing against our suggestion, take it to the place of inquiry. Make lists of all of the similarities and then when you get to parts that you are not quite sure of, say for a time just play with the assumption that the similarities exist and look for them to establish the correct path to move to next. Certainly you do understand that the eventual awakening of gratefulness for an intruder is the way to stop that intrusion, to change its character, to allow it to its ultimate conclusion. Gratefulness is one of the most powerful forms of superconductivity, and there are other ones as well. Resistance is that which manifests the fear energy that the intrusion will feed upon. And so also then will the attempt at resistance to parasites for instance by the use of tinctures or drug substances, be that which does not acknowledge at the physical level the equivalent to this. The gratefulness at the physical level then brings in the opportunity for the healing. Does this clarify?
 

Heidi: Yeah just one point ­ the gratefulness for intruders would come because your body is realizing that that leads to the solving of certain difficulties that you have been experiencing, because it makes you aware of them because of the intrusion, or is part of the gratefulness you are talking about because you have a habit of this relationship or there is some kind of familiarity?
 

Hilarion: Neither. It is the "Aha!" Holding it all in the spiritual realm ­ Nothing of the intuitive or body awareness necessary because really gratefulness as you perceive it is in such a realm. Body gratefulness is a whole different matter and relates more to a kinesthetic welcoming and relates to parasites but should not be confused here. In specific, the idea that you have transcended the resonance with the intruder. Having made that transcendental change, your personality changes, some nature of your spiritual being changes, for the better. It evolves. When you feel evolved, don't you feel grateful? But who would you be grateful to? You'd be grateful to yourself, for your courage, your willingness to work with the energy. But of course in retrospect you would be grateful to the intruder for you would not have had that opportunity in the first place. Does that clarify?
 

Heidi: Yes.
 

Hilarion: There is sufficient energy for one more briefly and then we should give the vehicle a break.
 

Heidi: OK. How does shame, fear, anger, in our society, produced especially with a "war" situation, affect people's nervous systems?
 

Hilarion: Each will have their own individual capacities depending on the difficulties. Fear will tend to be a component of all of these. It is rare that emotions such as anger and shame can stand on their own, there will be fear component because the individual's natural reaction to a situation. Shame, in this situation, can be that which produces a certain slowing down of the nervous system. Fear can produce such a speeding up of impulses and related matters, that burn out and exhaustion of various important substances occurs. Anger can produce such rapid volatile changes that there is an eventual degeneration of important connecting pathways and other pathways that can instead take over. These usually produce excessive control and an imbalance from the receptive nervous system into the controlling nervous system results. The various aspects of the autonomic functioning will always then be a part of this because many of the autonomic functions are control functions. And the result of this is significant physical body imbalance. Stomach; excess secretion; ulcer one path. Heart; excess production of toxic materials; heart attack and related heart difficulties another path and so on. These all are essentially nervous system difficulties and thus as the nervous system is healed these pathways gradually reverse. The results however can take time because of looking at the predispositions provide by parental lineage, various ways in which the child was fed in youth, sometimes taking many many years to reconstruct the nervous system when raw fats are made available. The nervous system difficulties, however, once at a beginning point of correction will usually produce sufficient benefits that the individual will continue in such and that is always quite helpful. In addition to these three emotions that you have mentioned, there are a few others nearly primary emotions. These are hopelessness. And this emotion will usually produce some slowing down and a gradual disconnection by which various large systems of the nerves do not communicate with each other. That is to say, a whole part of the body would seem to be disconnected from a whole other part, most typically then, numbness would result. This can even result ultimately in direct nervous system observable difficulties, such as multiple sclerosis where the outer nerve sheath is so damaged. Other pathologies are possible with various other negative emotions and one will often note as these are allowed that various systems change, there can always be interaction, but fear will be present with all of these and is always the place to begin. Your question is quite broad, there are many different aspects of this, but the nervous system debilitation and the way it affects an individual will tend to be karmic. The various pathways that the individual has established will be very important for their own understanding of their own life. Their own tendencies are brought into their current lifetime so that they can work on these issues, then you could say back to the gratefulness as previously mentioned. The other issue that may come up for some individuals relates to the nervous system difficulty and emotional shift of confusion. Confusion is a fairly difficult issue because at that point the brain's interconnectivity to the rest of the nervous system and indeed to many aspects of physicality is indeed an important component. Confusion extending not only at the emotional level and physical body level but into the higher subtle aspects particularly the para-nervous system, and the influence of the interactivity between the parabrain and the physical brain, particularly relating to the various components of the limbic system, lower brain, emotional relationships and their parabrain component equivalents. So each of these have their own differences and yet at the same time fear will be perceived as an important component, and thus focusing on this and shifting it can often be a way of releasing the underpinnings. As fear as an overall exacerbator of many difficulties can be shifted, the nervous system can generally rebuild. You can imagine then, the natural proclivities because of the individuals own emotional and karmic paths towards these other emotions will be intensified. They will have to deal with these issues as the fear is shifted because of the habit patterns they have developed over lifetimes and into this lifetime. Does this answer your question?
 

Heidi: Yes.
 

Hilarion: Then, would it be all right to give the vehicle a break?
 

Heidi: Yes.
 

Hilarion: We are grateful to your questions and your willingness to keep them so clearly focused on these important issues, and to look at our somewhat different point of view where necessary with these issues. We remind you of the idea of the emerald light, again forming a cylinder about 30 feet in diameter, infinitely upwards through to center of earth, and as you breathe this light, see that questions, answers, and all the rest are released and instead you simply become aware of Mother Earth's loving embrace, her loving warm energy bubbling up through your feet, into your heart, to be shared as a gently OM, Good-bye.
 

Heidi and Hilarion: OOOOMMM

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