From a thread on the Afterlife Knowledge Forum here :
http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1177021694/0#4
Juditha posted :
Hi I went to the spiritualist church and the
medium there came to this woman ,who was in the audience and the medium
said to her,that he had this man who was in spirit and he was hiding behind
the veil and he was saying that he felt so bad about what he had done to
her that he could not come away from hiding behind the veil and the medium
then said to this woman that this spirit wanted her forgiveness and that
he was truly sorry for what he had done.
This woman shouted at the medium and said "Tell him to go away ,i do not want him here,i will never forgive him" and the medium looked sad and he said that he had gone,so sometimes even the death of someone you shared life with does not always receive forgiveness from the one he or she has left behind,he had felt remorse on the spirit plane ,but it did not matter to her on the physical plane.
Dave posted :
Hi Juditha-
The man has had a change of heart. That will
free him. What has actually happened is that the woman who refused to forgive
is now stuck with hauling all her nastiness and bile around until she is
willing to let it go and forgive him.
Whenever we encounter a person with some kind of attached ailment that defies medical interpretation, it's a pretty good bet that it's stuck on by karma. The essence of the karma is generally the refusal to forgive what happened to us. That means that to keep the pain we have to keep the injury, and because we keep the injjury we suffer and feel hostile, and the justification for the hostility is that we feel pain, so to keep the pain we are forced to keep the injuiry ... and round and round and round it goes. You know what they say - some would rather reign in hell then submit to heaven.
For some reason people seem to feel that when
I forgive someone it's a favor that I am doing for them. This might be
true in a trivial manner, but the biggest winner is the person who does
the forgiving, because that means that everything can now be let go. Forgiveness
is one of the most powerful cures we have. Too bad that she failed to recognize
it.
I posted :
Dave says it like it is, most accurately to the point.
No one actually needs to seek forgiveness from anyone else (interpersonal
karma of relationships inevitably needs to be balanced, but this is not
forgiveness by itself), nor does anyone actually need to forgive anyone
else. (Because when one is finally able to see clearly spiritually, and
lovingly, it is not the other person (eg. perpetrator or transgressor against
you in the past) who needs your forgiveness (there is nothing to forgive),
it is only yourself.)
Perpetrator/Transgressor : "I seek your forgiveness."
(The being who has reached a point of 'enlightenment' (ie. the never-ending
process of adding light, clarity, love or evolution to oneself), awareness
and evolution) :
"There is nothing to forgive, other than (both of us) forgiving (ie.
learning and growing from, then letting go) of the energy (including pain,
suffering, mistakes, etc) of the past karma, the past karmic relationship
play that both of us had agreed and chosen to participate in. I *more*
than forgive you (because there is nothing about you that I need to forgive;
you do not need my, nor anyone's, forgiveness; you only need your own),
I *love* you."
Love is the ultimate forgiveness. Or put in another way; in Love, there is no need even for any 'forgiveness'.
Lily Fairchilde's "Voices from the Afterlife" on a story of Forgiveness & Love from two souls whose stories are intertwined with, about and for each other. Their stories are told from their perspective now in the afterlife. Author Lily Fairchilde clairvoyantly and telepathically mediates.
Story of Michael (pg
92 - 102)
Story of Li (pg
103 - 111).
Quotation (pg 111) :
The angels said of Michael and Li, "Forgiveness
is the beginning of all healing. It is the source of true freedom and enlightenment.
Without total forgiveness of self (and therefore others), there can never
be the complete immersion of a soul in true unconditional Love."
Also, see Hilarion and Sananda (Jesus Christ) on Love & Forgiveness
as the *purpose* of Karma :
http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/Hilarion_JesusChristSananda_On_Love.htm